In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kory Kelly discuss:

  • Talent as a capitalist market. 
  • What culture really means and what talented employees are truly looking for. 
  • Selling legal services online as the future of the law industry. 
  • Automation and productization of legal services within the next five years. 


Key Takeaways:

  • If you want to retain quality talent, you have to create a place that people want to stay. 
  • Ask what your team needs and give it to them to support them in their job. 
  • Everybody gets business through relationships. It is not unique to the legal industry. 
  • The future of legal services is going to be more hyper specific law firms that do one thing extremely well. 


“Make your team a product that you obsess over.” — Kory Kelly


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Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie


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